The conductor said,
"Yes, yes ... very good!"
Does he realize what he was agreeing to? If you showed him secular evidence that Babylon DID NOT fall in 607 would he be as agreeable?
Good method btw.
man, i had to read at the book study tonight (which is still at my house btw).. this was the first of the real "meat" of the daniel book (spam more like it, actually).. anyways, for those of you that don't know i am trying to get up the nerve to explain to my wife what i have been learning.
i found tonight was a good night to make some comments in a non-threatening "book study" environment that she (hopefully) will remember.. this weeks book study lesson is posted here, by the way:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/93670/1.ashx.
The conductor said,
"Yes, yes ... very good!"
Does he realize what he was agreeing to? If you showed him secular evidence that Babylon DID NOT fall in 607 would he be as agreeable?
Good method btw.
... who gives a rip!
after leaving the witness does anyone here believe satan exists?
if yes do you think if we "gave" satan some kind of a challenge to prove he exists would it happen?
if he is so hell-bent on proving jehovah/ witnesses wrong would he go to such great lengths to make sure ppl turn away?
I dunno ... and I'm not out to prove it either way.
i woke up this morning and saw the news, more terrorist attacks this time in london.
so far 33 have been declared dead with as many as three hundred injured.
please keep all of the victims in your prayers today and lets all hope that nothing else happens.. .
I said a prayer when I heard the news this morning. We can't get discouraged ... remember to be appreciative for where you are in this moment and for all those you hold dear. Never let a day pass without showing love to others ... we never know what day will be our last.
one of my best friends lives in the same building as this single woman in the congregation i used to attend.
we'll call her "pam.
" this woman's father is an elder (he was on the committee that df'd me) and he lives in the building next to them.
That was probably 'Pam's' way of giving a witness to her neighbor, if she had never done so before. I can remember feeling extremely guilty for not witnessing to 'everyone I came in contact with' . She probably hoped she would read them herself (on the plane).
I think it's sad that some of us cannot say what we feel when we're confronted with something that makes us uncomfortable. She could have just refused. No can stand by itself. It leaves it to the other person to think of what to say next .
i'm curious how many here were witnesses.
for those that were, what are your current religeous affiliations?
i'm still evolving, but currently i consider myself to be a cross between an agnostic and a deist.
I'm not religious at all. Similar to James, I choose to let my own heart lead me to God rather than any man-made organization . Deism sounds most like my personal philosophy (if you can call it that). I beieve that there is a God, but he is OBVIOUSLY not meddling in mankinds day to day affairs.
I think the ultimate realization of every human being is to learn to understand, display and accept LOVE (sounds sappy doesn't it?). If the majority of people on earth understood that then the majority of our problems would be solved. No more doing things out of mere greed, selfishness or lust for power - but every decision would be based on LOVE and take into account the effects of today's actions on present and future generations. Furthermore the world powers would look after the interest of people in EVERY nation, not just those whose resources they wish to exploit.
So, that's where I am right now - and I'm not pressed to move anyplace else at the moment.
in a post on this board, .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/93777/1.ashx .
there is criticism over the publication of the book, .
Grissom, rambaldi or whoever this is ... you're a dweeb. Believe what U want 2 believe dude. I could personally care less. If you want to count time by preaching to people who've already heard and rejected the message be 'our' guest.
un is 8th world power?
naaah, its not a world power, not even close.
it has no power.. babylon the great has fallen?
It's all a crock of BullSh*T!!! Might as well fart in the wind and try to predict the next hurricane.
the latest wt of september 1 2005 has another example of what i now call "the rug pull" where words are used cleverly to blame the flock for their own flagging spirit.
the mag is "why it pays to be loyal" (not good or kind but that's another thread.
the setup comes on page 16 para 13: .
Once in a while the WTBTS actually says something that is TRUE! YES, I left the b0rganization for SELFISH reasons. To live my life for me not for the self proclaimed slave's kingdom interests. The kindom was not interested in me or my happiness and I eventually lost interest in promoting their books and magazines and trying to recruit more slaves for the master.
YES! I tired of waiting for the 'promised' new world that was always 'right around the corner'. Sorry. It didn't come soon enough to justify sacrificing my entire life for what might be just a dream. As one expecation after another was dashed to pieces, I must admit, I lost my faith. Upon reflection I came to conclude that it was not God whom I lost faith in, for God did not promise a 'new world' that was 'right around the corner'. God did not promise that the 'generation' that saw the events of 1914 would also see the end (can't believe they're still putting that in the mags).
Jesus said his load is kindly and his burden is light. Then why did I feel so bogged down, like no matter how hard I tried to please God it was never good enough. Why was there a question about my 'survival' into a 'new earth' so unsure? AHA! Because it was NOT God's requirements that strangled me, but the requirements of the self appointed 'faithful and discreet slave class', more specifically, the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, who heaped up heavy loads for their 'followers' and made promises they could not possibly keep. In the end I would stand alone before my maker. For the time-being, I will love God as I always have and work out my own salvation, if there is to be any at all.
rambaldi, .
my faith has been destroyed by these apostates.
as a jw we are fed by the faithful and discreet slave at the appointed time.
Excellent response Robyn. The compassion you showed to the elderly woman was what got thru to her. That and the simple and straigthforward truth about 'da troof'.